Maptalk-Digest Thursday, December 16 1999 Volume 99 : Number 535
Time Inc. Bulletin Boards - Legalize Drugs? (http://boards.pathfinder.com/c
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Fwd: DPFCA: Kerr's Snacks Drops Judge Judy
From: Mark Greer <>
A new Judge Judy target
From: "Cliff Schaffer" <>
Re: A new Judge Judy target
From: "RLRoot" <>
PEOPLE MAGAZINE ADDRESS??
From: manemez j lovitto <>
Re: MAP: PEOPLE MAGAZINE ADDRESS??
From: (Matt Elrod)
Re: A new Judge Judy target
From: Jim Rosenfield <>
Another Way -- Can't Build Enough Jails
From: Jim Rosenfield <>
Fwd: ARO: judge judy
From: Mark Greer <>
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Subj: Time Inc. Bulletin Boards - Legalize Drugs? (http://boards.pathfinder.com/cgi-b
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:21:01 -0600
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Mappers,
This link was sent to me because of the heroin issue contained herein. I
see they have a legalization debate beginning. I looked around on the site,
which is maintained by Time, and these could be people we want to reach. You
have to sign-up to post, though.
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Subj: Fwd: DPFCA: Kerr's Snacks Drops Judge Judy
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:08:49 -0800
>Subject: DPFCA: Kerr's Snacks Drops Judge Judy
>To:
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:16:14 -0800 (PST)
>Cc:
>From: (Bob Ames)
>X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0b3]
>Sender:
>Reply-To: (Bob Ames)
>Organization: DrugSense http://www.drugsense.org/dpfca/
>X-Envelope-To:
>
>Greetings,
>
>In order to express my appreciation toward Herr's snacks company
>for stopping advertising on the Judge Judy entertainment program,
>I have decided to provide Herr's with some additional web visitors.
>
>I have asked my ISP to point www.rush.com over to www.herrs.com
>beginning on about Thursday and continuing until the end of the
>year.
>
>What this means is that www.herrs.com is expected to receive an
>additional approximately fifteen thousand extra web site visitors
>before the end of 1999.
>
>Anyone typing www.rush.com into their browser will automatically be
>sent to www.herrs.com, effective on about Thursday, until the end
>of 1999.
>
>"Judge" Judy recently went on record as saying "give them dirty
>needles and let them all die."
>
>The National Science Foundation states that needle exchange is one
>of the most effective ways of reducing the spread of several very
>deadly diseases within our community.
>
>Thanks again goes to Herr's snacks company for stopping advertising
>on this entertainment program.
>
>Very Truly Yours,
>
>Bob Ames
>Registered Owner of therush.com Internet Domain
>
>--
>Bob Ames <>
>"We each pay a fabulous price...
> for our visions of paradise", Neil Peart '87
Mark Greer
Executive Director
DrugSense
http://www.drugsense.orghttp://www.mapinc.org
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Subj: A new Judge Judy target
From: "Cliff Schaffer" <>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:57:59 -0800
Dateline just announced that People Magazine has chosen Judge Judy as one of
its 25 most intriguing people of the year. Let's tell them what she is
really about.
Clifford A. Schaffer
P.O. Box 1430
Canyon Country, CA 91386-1430
661-251-4140
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Subj: Re: A new Judge Judy target
From: "RLRoot" <>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 03:48:48 -0800
>Clifford A. Schaffer wrote:
>Dateline just announced that People Magazine has chosen Judge Judy as one
of
>its 25 most intriguing people of the year. Let's tell them what she is
>really about.
>
Dear People,
I am so amazed at your astute selection of Judge Judy as one of the 25 Most
Intriguing People of the Year. I find it extremely intriguing that she
advocates that people with serious health problems should be given tainted
needles, and that we should as she has put it, "let 'em die". Yes, Judge
Judy is has earned her spot on that list. Just as Adolph Hitler belongs on
the list of Most Intriguing of the Century.
Rick Root
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Subj: PEOPLE MAGAZINE ADDRESS??
From: manemez j lovitto <>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:09:06 -0500
For the information of all
here is the address for PEOPLE Magazine
oops,.....BLUSH
MAP DOES NOT HAVE THAT ONE
could it be that People is not quite the drugnews rag we had hoped? :-)
If anyone can forward that contact info to MAPTALK and also to ME at the
above address, I will see that it gets into the MAP database and of course
it will make it easier to contact People....maybe they will follow up on
the Enquirer's move???
Steve in Largo
>>Clifford A. Schaffer wrote:
>>Dateline just announced that People Magazine has chosen Judge Judy as one
>of
>>its 25 most intriguing people of the year. Let's tell them what she is
>>really about.
>>
>Dear People,
>
>I am so amazed at your astute selection of Judge Judy as one of the 25 Most
>Intriguing People of the Year. I find it extremely intriguing that she
>advocates that people with serious health problems should be given tainted
>needles, and that we should as she has put it, "let 'em die". Yes, Judge
>Judy is has earned her spot on that list. Just as Adolph Hitler belongs on
>the list of Most Intriguing of the Century.
>
>Rick Root
>
>
>
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Subj: Re: MAP: PEOPLE MAGAZINE ADDRESS??
From: (Matt Elrod)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:45:52 -0800
}If anyone can forward that contact info to MAPTALK and also to ME at the
}above address, I will see that it gets into the MAP database and of course
}it will make it easier to contact People...
They use an online feedback form ...
http://pathfinder.com/people/web/write_to_us.html
Real straight forward, it asks for your email address, a subject
and your comments.
Looking at the source code we find ...
I don't see any reason why one couldn't send email directly to this
address.
Matt
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Subj: Re: A new Judge Judy target
From: Jim Rosenfield <>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:59:59 -0800
who has contacts for "People"?
At 08:57 PM 12/15/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Dateline just announced that People Magazine has chosen Judge Judy as one of
>its 25 most intriguing people of the year. Let's tell them what she is
>really about.
>
>Clifford A. Schaffer
>P.O. Box 1430
>Canyon Country, CA 91386-1430
>661-251-4140
Jim Rosenfield
tel: 310-836-0926 fax: 310-836-0592
Visit http://www.insightweb.com
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Subj: Another Way -- Can't Build Enough Jails
From: Jim Rosenfield <>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:14:21 -0800
Dear Editors:
re: "Can't Build Enough Jails, So Give Drug Treatment A Chance," your
proposals are thoughtful and humane, but what about addicts who only
crime is possession? Certainly, we ought to offer treatment to any addicts
who want it. But do they need punishment at all?
And what about drug users who are not addicts? Last year, there were
almost 700,000 arrests for marijuana in the U.S. According to the
Institute of Medicine, along with most other reputable science, marijuana
is not addictive. Those busted for marijuana are not addicts. Do they
also need "treatment", or do they merely need long, harsh punishments so
they stop "dissing" the Czar and setting a "bad example" for some parents'
kids?
From the taxpayers perspective, we could certainly find a better use
for the money we spend busting all those potheads and putting them in jail.
Jim Rosenfield
Culver City CA
>Source: Houston Chronicle (TX)
>Copyright: 1999 Houston Chronicle
>Page: 46A (editorial page)
>Contact:
>Address: Viewpoints Editor, P.O. Box 4260 Houston, Texas 77210-4260
>Fax: (713) 220-3575
>Website: http://www.chron.com/
>Forum: http://www.chron.com/content/hcitalk/index.html
>Author: Houston Chronicle Editorial Board
>
>ANOTHER WAY
>
>Can't Build Enough Jails, So Give Drug Treatment A Chance
>
>Whether methods employed by American law enforcement officials and the
>criminal justice system -- zero tolerance and harsh mandatory prison
>sentences -- are the most effective and appropriate ways of dealing with
>this country's massive drug crime problems is food for serious debate.
>
>At least two components of the issue, however, are entirely clear -- the
>drug problem has exploded the nation's prison population, and there will
>never be enough jail space to hold the seemingly unlimited supply of
>drug-related criminals, many of whom are addicts.
>
>Now, Gen. Barry McCaffrey, the country's drug policy director, has proposed
>incorporating drug testing and treatment into the criminal justice process,
>from arrest to release from prison. That makes sense.
>
>Studies show that 60 percent or more of those in jail are there because of
>serious drug or alcohol problems, often directly related to their criminal
>activity. Because almost no inmates get any form drug treatment during
>incarceration, as many as 80 percent commit new crimes post-release.
>
>According to various studies: America spent around $5 billion for prisons
>and jails 20 years ago. In 1997, prison and jail costs ran taxpayers $31
>billion. Last year, to lock up 1 million nonviolent offenders, states spent
>$24 billion. More than 1,000 new prisons have been built since the 1970s,
>and the number of drug offenders jailed since then has tripled. Some states
>spend more on lockups than on universities.
>
>Judges often want to sentence first-time drug offenders to probation with
>drug treatment as condition of the sentence. But there is so little
>treatment available that many offenders are sent away with little more than
>court orders to show up for periodic drug tests. The situation is hardly
>better for those sentenced to jail time.
>
>Some argue that drug treatment does not work until the addict is ready to
>change. Surely, then, there ought to be programs available at least for
>those who are willing to make the attempt.
>>>>---
>MAP posted-by: Doc-Hawk
Jim Rosenfield
tel: 310-836-0926 fax: 310-836-0592
Visit http://www.insightweb.com
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Subj: Fwd: ARO: judge judy
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:11:14 -0800
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Anyone get this article? Got an Email address? NY Magazine is not in our
media contact list (but I think it is a NY Times insert isn't it? This
could easily slip under our radar as it probably doesn't mention drugs but
it is definitely worth and Focus Alert if we can get it hawked.
Here's a good Extra Credit for the same FA
"Dateline just announced that People Magazine has chosen Judge Judy as one of
its 25 most intriguing people of the year. Let's tell them what she is
really about."
Cliff Schaffer
>From: "neyle" <>
>To: "ARO" <>
>Subject: ARO: judge judy
>Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:44:18 -0500
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4
>Sender:
>Reply-To: "neyle" <>
>Organization: DrugSense http://www.drugsense.org/
>X-Envelope-To:
>
>The current issue of NY Magazine features Judge Judy as one of the most
>important NY'ers of the year and has a short profile of her, no doubt done
>long before her stupid remarks became known. It couldn't hurt to write to
>them. I'm sure they will print lots of letters complaining about their choices.
>Nicky
Mark Greer
Executive Director
DrugSense
http://www.drugsense.orghttp://www.mapinc.org
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Anyone get this article? Got an Email address? NY Magazine is not in our
media contact list (but I think it is a NY Times insert isn't it? This
could easily slip under our radar as it probably doesn't mention drugs
but it is definitely worth and Focus Alert if we can get it hawked.
Here's a good Extra Credit for the same FA
"Dateline just announced that People Magazine has chosen Judge Judy
as one of
its 25 most intriguing people of the year. Let's tell them what she
is
really about."
Cliff Schaffer
From: "neyle"
&>
To: "ARO" &>
Subject: ARO: judge judy
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:44:18 -0500
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4
Sender:
Reply-To: "neyle" &>
Organization: DrugSense
http://www.drugsense.org/" eudora"autourl">http://www.drugsense.org/
X-Envelope-To:
The current issue of NY Magazine features Judge Judy as one
of the most important NY'ers of the year and has a short profile of her,
no doubt done long before her stupid remarks became known. It couldn't
hurt to write to them. I'm sure they will print lots of letters
complaining about their choices.
Nicky